Interviews

Wholphin Editor Brent Hoff

I’m a huge fan of Wholphin, a quarterly DVD filled with short films pub­lished by the fine folks behind McSweeney’s and The Believer magazines. It’s one of the chief reasons why my appre­ci­ation for short films con­tinues to grow. So I was delighted to dis­cover that Wholphin’s founder and editor Brent Hoff would be in Toronto to attend the Worldwide Short Film Festival. He gra­ciously agreed to talk with me about the “magazine” and his pas­sionate belief that films should be free to be just the right length. Extra credit for sit­ting down with me after spending 4.5 hours in the hot sun watching the Blue Jays win a 15-inning nailbiter.

An added bonus was the pres­ence of Sundance Film Festival shorts pro­grammer Jon Korn, who pipes in now and then. I’ve actu­ally been prom­ised a fuller inter­view with Jon soon so look for that in the weeks or months to come.

Special thanks to AJ Schnack for granting per­mis­sion to use his photo of Brent enjoying him­self at the 2008 True/False Film Festival.

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Andrew James and Joshua Ligairi
Cleanflix has a number of fest­ival screen­ings coming up in the coming months. Catch the film at the Big Sky Documentary Film Festival in Missoula, Montana, and at Cinequest in San Jose, California.

My first film at the 2009 Toronto International Film Festival was Cleanflix (review), a doc­u­mentary which explored the issues sur­rounding the sale and rental of edited ver­sions of R-rated movies to obser­vant Mormons in Utah. I knew that after seeing the film, I wanted to ask the cre­ators many more ques­tions than they could have fielded during the post-screening Q&A. So, thanks to David Magdael and Margot Hardy from TC:DM Associates, I was able to sit down for half an hour with the cre­ators of the film during what must have been a very hectic week for them. In addi­tion to co-directors Andrew James (on the left in the pic­ture above) and Joshua Ligairi (on the right), we were also joined by pro­ducer Amber Bollinger.

Since the inter­view deals with some plot points in the film, it really makes sense to read my review first.

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Kat Cizek

The National Film Board recently released Filmmaker-in-Residence, a DVD box set of Katerina (Kat) Cizek’s pion­eering work with St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto. Cizek was “embedded” as a film­maker working at the hos­pital for a period of sev­eral years and was free to pursue any story she found inter­esting. The res­ulting work included sev­eral films, a photo exhibit, and one of the earliest and best uses of the web to tell doc­u­mentary stories. And quite apart from the innov­ative use of tech­no­logy, the pro­ject has had an enduring pos­itive effect on the com­munity the hos­pital serves. To describe her work as life-changing would be no exaggeration.

In yet another con­nec­tion from my time at the Summer Institute of Film and Television this spring, Kat was teaching a work­shop and because she and Peter Wintonick (my work­shop teacher) had worked together on a film (Seeing Is Believing), they swapped classes for a day. I knew imme­di­ately that Kat was someone who was very in tune with poten­tial of new tech­no­lo­gies, espe­cially the web, and so I was eager to see her work with St. Mike’s. I’m still working my way through this generously-packed box set, but I had the chance to ask her some ques­tions about the pro­ject via email. Special thanks to the NFB’s Jennifer Mair for facil­it­ating the interview.

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Paramita Nath

I met Paramita Nath a few months ago when we were class­mates at the Summer Institute of Film and Television in Ottawa. We were both in Peter Wintonick’s Docology work­shop and over the five days we were there, I got a glimpse of both her per­fec­tionist side and her con­sid­er­able charm. Near the end of the week, she let it slip that she had a com­pleted short film that she might like some feed­back on. Despite playing back on a small laptop screen, Found (review) knocked our socks off. On the last day of the work­shop, she found out that it had been accepted by the Palm Springs Shortfest. Since then, the film has played sev­eral other US fest­ivals and now, on the eve of Found’s hometown premiere at TIFF, I sat down to talk to her about her back­ground and the exper­i­ence of making her first short film.
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Stéphanie Trépanier - Evokative Films

Evokative Films is a brand-new Canadian film dis­trib­utor founded in early 2008 with a fresh per­spective on the dis­tri­bu­tion busi­ness. With a strong online pres­ence (a bilin­gual blog, YouTube channel and Facebook page), its mis­sion is “to bring clever, enter­taining and ori­ginal inter­na­tional genre fea­tures to film enthu­si­asts across Canada.”

I con­tacted founder Stéphanie Trépanier, based in Montréal, to find out a little bit more about this exciting new player in the Canadian market.

James McNally (JM): Stéphanie, can you tell us a little bit about your­self and your back­ground and what brought you to start Evokative?

Stéphanie Trépanier (ST): Ah, where to start. Well, I’m a French-Canadian born and raised on the south shore of Montréal. Having par­ents who trav­elled, I was raised to be curious about the world and other cul­tures. From as far back as I can remember, I was always inter­ested in cinema and inter­na­tional film. The small­ness of the inter­na­tional sec­tion of the local video­club always depressed me. My little brother was an avid film-watcher too, but more on the horror side. During my teenage years my interest in inde­pendent cinema and anim­a­tion grew and I started going to the Fantasia Festival in its second year. That fest­ival was such a relief, bringing to the screens so many films that we would just never see otherwise.

My par­ents started their own busi­ness in pack­aging machinery dis­tri­bu­tion when I was eight years old, in our house’s garage. Over the past 20 years, it has grown to become one of the most important com­panies in its sector in Canada. Evidently I learned a lot from watching them work and the com­pany grow. I was also involved in the com­pany for a number of years and learned about the many aspects of its admin­is­tra­tion. But after a while, I real­ized I needed more pas­sion in my work and that what I really wanted to do was to work in film.

So I quit the day job and went back to school to get a Bachelor’s degree in Public Relations, with a minor in Marketing and some Film classes. I figured PR was going to be my foot in the door of the film industry. While I was still in uni­ver­sity I started working for the Fantasia Festival, which was then in its 9th edi­tion and had grown to become one of the major cine­matic events in the country. People who don’t think there is an audi­ence for inter­na­tional genre film need to go to Fantasia and see the line-ups of people excited about what they’re about to exper­i­ence. It made me see how much the genre film audi­ence is curious, pas­sionate and loyal, which makes them the best “cus­tomers” there can be, if they are listened and catered to. Which is not always the case in the film industry.

I then went on to work for Christal Films, then a major film dis­trib­utor in Québec, where I mostly took care of the PR for the English releases. Eventually I got a pro­mo­tion to the DVD depart­ment, and it’s there that the Evokative seed got planted. I was never too sure of the the­at­rical poten­tial of inter­na­tional genre film, but in DVD it can def­in­itely work. About a year ago, the com­pany started not going so well and I decided it was time I tried going on my own.

Evokative Films

JM: Are you the only employee so far? What are your plans to grow the busi­ness in the next year, espe­cially in light of the looming eco­nomic recession?

ST: Yes, I’m the only person in the com­pany at the moment, save for my mother who lends me her accounting expertise. But it’s gotten to be too much work lately so I’m actu­ally in the pro­cess of hiring an assistant. Distributing films is a lot of work, much more than what can be expected, but I’ll try to keep the team as small as pos­sible. The small over­head is what makes Evokative pos­sible, not having to meet the same num­bers the other bigger dis­trib­utors need to keep things rolling. For sure the looming reces­sion brings some uncer­tainty and I’ve exper­i­enced the weak­ening dollar, but I think/hope the film industry won’t be too affected. We all need to be enter­tained when things are not going great!

JM: What’s the focus of the port­folio, other than “genre” films? Do you skew toward thrillers, or horror, or are there plans to cover other genres as well?

ST: The term “genre film” is one that has so many dif­ferent defin­i­tions. For a lot of people, it means horror and thrillers. For me, genre films are films that respond to the rules of a par­tic­ular genre, but also have an edge. I like diversity, so I intend to have just as many com­edies as horror films. I also like it when the genres are mixed. Le Tueur is a thriller, but also a psy­cho­lo­gical drama. Hansel and Gretel is a fant­astic film going towards horror. Adrift in Tokyo is a blend of walking road movie, comedy and human drama. My main focus, when it comes to choosing films for Evokative, is that the film has to be ori­ginal, clever and enter­taining. There will always be a char­ac­ter­istic that will be more important than the others, but the three have to be there. It also has to be a film that no other Canadian dis­trib­utors have been inter­ested in bringing here, but fans of the genre have been asking for, such as Crying Fist and Hazard.

JM: What’s your strategy for the­at­rical dis­tri­bu­tion versus DVD? I find genre films (and most other films) are more fun to exper­i­ence with an audi­ence, on a large screen. Have you been able to build rela­tion­ships with the cinema chains across the country, or are you focus­sing on the inde­pendent cinemas more?

ST: I totally agree that films are much better to see with an audi­ence, on a large screen. Everybody agrees with that, but fewer and fewer people walk the walk, in terms of actu­ally going to see a film in a cinema reg­u­larly. So screening films in a theatre has become less and less prof­it­able. Prints and advert­ising costs are so high that it’s very easy to lose money in the ven­ture. So it is under­stand­able that an increasing number of films are released dir­ectly onto DVD.

I’m just begin­ning, so I have to start a rela­tion­ship with the theatre owners. I’m going just as much for the chains as for the inde­pendent cinemas. What’s important for me is the loc­a­tion of the cinema, the quality of the screen and the com­fort of the chairs. For the Montreal release of Le Tueur (The Killer), I went with the Ex-Centris, an inde­pendent cinema, and the AMC Forum, a chain. In Toronto it will play at the AMC Yonge and Dundas, which is huge. But for Vancouver I’m looking into one of the Festival Cinemas.

I’ll have about a 50/50 ratio of films going to theatres or going straight to DVD. I don’t really want to get too involved in the high costs, the work and stress a the­at­rical release brings, but I also want to give the audi­ence a chance to see the film on the big screen. Also, the DVD needs to have some buzz and good reviews to get a proper career, and most of the reviews are obtained through a the­at­rical release.

Le Tueur (The Killer)

JM: Tell us a little bit about Le Tueur (The Killer), the French thriller that was your first acquis­i­tion. What was the pro­cess of acquiring the film like? Were you nervous about nego­ti­ating? Were there other con­tenders for the Canadian rights?

ST: The com­pany only incor­por­ated in April, and by May I was at Cannes. I didn’t know anyone and all I had to rep­resent myself was the Evokative Manifesto printed on a post­card. I booked as many meet­ings as I pos­sibly could on-site and I just had to deliver the Evokative pitch con­vin­cingly. Some meet­ings were dis­astrous, with the sales agent clearly looking at me as if I came from another planet. But others got the Evokative vision and found it very refreshing. UGC was one of those. There were no other dis­trib­utors con­tending for Le Tueur and it was already pro­grammed at Fantasia, so it was perfect.

The first buy is obvi­ously the most dif­fi­cult, [because] you have nothing to show for your­self except your will­ing­ness to make it. Just a few months in, it is already much easier. The fact that a big dis­tri­bu­tion com­pany like UGC trusted a new­comer with Le Tueur opened doors. I have many more con­tacts from the fest­ivals I attended (TIFF, Pusan) and the films acquired. I also got some nice industry press in the last few months and the line-up I’ve cre­ated speaks for Evokative.

I’m not in the busi­ness of fighting with other dis­trib­utors for the rights to a film. Starting up, I don’t have the funds to get into bid­ding wars. Also, the goal of Evokative is to bring films that oth­er­wise wouldn’t get dis­tri­bu­tion in Canada.

Evok - Evokative Films

JM: I love Evok, your “mascot”. Can you tell us a bit about his story, who designed him and what your plans are for him in the future?

ST: I dealt with Upperkut, a mar­keting agency here in Montréal, for the devel­op­ment of the visual iden­tity of Evokative. It was a long and arduous pro­cess, but I’m extremely happy of the result. I told them I wanted some kind of char­acter and Antonin Brault, one of their cre­ative dir­ectors, came up with Evok. He even made a real-life puppet for the pitch.

Evok brings a bit of comic relief in this very “ser­ious” busi­ness of dis­tri­bu­tion. He also trans­lates in a funny way the emo­tions that genre films bring about. He already has his own anim­a­tion and we’ll see what we can have him do in the future.

JM: Tell me how you’re using the web as a small company.

ST: I very much believe in the future of the web for film pro­mo­tion. It allows us to reach the audi­ence dir­ectly, much more than with the main­stream media. I founded Evokative for inter­na­tional film fans, so I want to get them involved and start a dialogue.

The last few months have been very exciting for me and I liked the idea of being able to share in the pro­gress of the busi­ness, as well as giving as much inform­a­tion on the films as soon as they’re acquired, to help start the buzz and word-of-mouth. A blog-based web­site like I have now and Facebook are great plat­forms for that. A new web­site, developed by Philosophy Factory in Toronto, will soon be launched. We will also have a web store so that inter­na­tional film fans can have access to the Evokative DVDs from any­where in Canada. Web-based dis­tri­bu­tion is also some­thing I want to look into as soon as possible.

For me Evokative is much more than just another film dis­tri­bu­tion com­pany. It’s about increasing the aware­ness and love of inter­na­tional genre films and also making a point that we are not pris­oners of the main­stream film system, that one can go and stand up for the pas­sion of a dif­ferent genre of cinema. Of course I’ll need the com­pany to become prof­it­able to keep run­ning, so hope­fully film fans across Canada will respond to Evokative’s mis­sion and will take it upon them­selves to spread the good word!

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